8 FEBRUARY 1834, Page 2

Minded anti Praceeltinge in Parliament. 1. TIIE OPENING—TIIE KING'S SPEECH.

On Tuesday, the King opened the session of Parliament in person. The House of Lords presented an extremely gay and splendid appearance on this Occasion: the attendance of Peeresses was so unusually large, that a number of Peers were obliged to stand during the ceremony, their seats being occupied by their ladies. The Ambassadors' benches were completely filled. Prince Talleyrand was present, and attracted the most attention of any member of the diplomatic body.

At half-past one, Lord Chancellor Brougham took his seat upon the woolsack ; and soon after two, his Majesty entered,—looking well, though troubled with a severe cold. The Commons were summoned; and about two hundred Members, headed by the Speaker, tippeared at the bar.

The KING then read the following Speech, in a firm and distinct

• 'oice.

My Lords and Gentlemen—In calling you again together for the discharge of your tisk duties, I tely nith entire confidence on your seal and diligence, on your sincere devotion to the public interests, and on your firsmois in supporting, on it ancient foundations, and io the just distrilmtion of its powers, the established Constitution of the State, " These qualities eminently distinguished your labours during the last session ;it %tide!' more numerous_and more itnportant questions were brought under consideration of Parliament titan duriog any former period of similar duration.

" of the measures which have, in consetplence, received the sanction of the Legisla. tore, one of the most difficult and important was the Bill for the Abolition of Slavery. The manner in which that beneficent measure has been received throughout the British Colonies, and the pmgress already made in carry hag it into execution by the Legislature of the island of Jamaica, afford just grounds for anticipating the happiest results.

" Many other important subjects 11 ill still call for your most attentive consideration. " The reports which I will order to be laid before you from the Commissions aps pointed to inquire into the state of the M tudeipal Corpuratione, into the adminiFtratiea and effect of the Poor-laws, and into Ecclesiastical revenues and patronage in England and Wales, cannot fail to afford you much useful information, by which you will be enablol to judge (Attie nature and extent of any existing defects anti abuses, and íawhat manner the necessary corrections may, in ohm season, be safely and beneficially applied. " It has been the constant ahn of my policy to secure to my people the uninterrupted enjoyment of the blessings of peace. In this I have been much assisted by the good understanding which has been so happily established between my Governmeet and that of ',ranee; and the assurances which I receive of the friendly disposition of the other PON1erg of tlw Continent give tee confidence in the continued success of my endeavours.

" I have, however, to regret that a final settlement between !Tolland and Belgium has not yet been effeeted, 71111,1 that the civil war in Portugal still continues. You tray be assured that I will be careful and anxious to avail myself of any opportunity which may :And me the means of assisting the establishment uf a state of security and peace in countries the interests of which are so intimately connected with those of my dominions.

" Upon the death of the late King of Spain I did not hesitate to recognize the sue• cession of his infant daughter ; and I shalt watch with the greatest solicitude the pre. geese of events, which may affect a Government the peaceable settlement of which is atilt first importance to this country as well as to the general tranquillity of Europe. " The peace of Turkey, since the settlement that was made with Mehemet Ali, has not been intemipted ; and will nut, I trust, be threatened with any new danger. It will be my object to prevent any ehauge in the relations of that empire with other Powers, which might affect its future stability and independence.

"Gentlemen of the House of Commons—I have directed the Estimates for the eusu. ing year to be laid before you. They have been framed with the view to the strictest economy, and to such reductions as may not be injurious to the public service.

" I ant confident I may rely on your enlightened patriotism, and on the cheerful ac. quiescence of my people for supply hog the means which may be required to uphold the honour of my Crown awl the interest of my dominions.

" The amends which will be laid before you of the state of the revenue, as compared with the expenditure, w ill be found most satisfactory.

" My Lords atel Gentlemen—I have to lament the continuance of distress amongst the proprietors and oceupiersof land ; though in other respects the state of the country, both as regards its internal tranquillity and its commerce and manufactures, affords the must encouraging prospect of progressive improvement.

The acts passed in the last session for carrying into effect various salutary and remedial measures in Ireland, are now in operation ; awl further improvements may be expected to result from the Commissions which have been issued for other import ant objeets of inquiry.

" I reconunend to you the early consideration of such a final adjustment of the Tithes, in that part or the United Kingdom. as may extinguish all just causes of cone without injury to the rights and property of any class of my subjects, or to any institution in Church or State.

" The public tranquillity has been generally preserved; and the state of all the revinces of Ireland presents, upon the whole, a much more favourable appearance thau at any period during the last year.

hut I have seen with feelings of deep regret and just indignation, the continuance of attempts to excite the people of that country to demand a repeal of the Legislatils Union. This bond of our national strength and safety. I have already declared my fixed and unalterable resolution, under the blessing of Divine Providence, to nmintaiu inviolate by all the means in my power. In support of this determination, I cannot doubt the zealous and effectual cooperation of my Parliament and my people. " To the practices which have been used to produce disaffection to the State, and mutual distrust and animosity between the people of the two countries, is chiefly to he attributed the spirit of insubordination, which, though for the present in a greardegro controlled by the power of the law, has been but too perceplible in many instances.

" To none more than to the deltultel instruments of the agitation thus perniciously exeited, is the continuance of such a'spirit productive of the most ruinous consequences; and the united and vigorous exertions of the loyal and well.alTected, in aid of the Co verument, are imperiously required to put an end to a system of excitement awl sin knee which, while it continues, is destructive of the peace of society, and, if successful, must inevitably prove fatal to the power and safety of the United Kingdom."

Having delivered the Speech, his Majesty retired ; and the Commons returned to their own House. The Lords adjourned till five o'clock.

2. THE ADDRESS.

In the House of Commons, the Speaker took the chair a few mi

nutes before four o'clock. There was a numerous attendance of Members both on the Ministerial and Opposition benches ; the former, however, being best filled. Lord Althorp, Mr. Stanley, Lord Palmerston, Lord John Russell, Mr. Littleton, Sir James Graham, and Mr. Spring Rice occupied the Treasury bench. On the front Opposition seat, we noticed Sir Robert Peel, Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Cobbett, Mr. Ruthven, and Mr. Finn. Mr. Hume had resumed his old seat by the pillar. Good order and decorum were observed for the most part during the evening. There was some noise and talking, dining the speeches of prosy, and, in the opinion of the House, unimportant Members ; but we heard none of the cock-crowing, donkey-braying, and other after-dinner noises, which disgraced the High Council of the Nation last session. There was nothing very exciting, to be sure, in the business before the House ; the Speech and the Address having been framed with a studious avoidance, with one exception, of every thing likely to call forth angry remonstrance or debate. Upon the whole, we have never witnessed a more placid and dull first night. A sympathetic apathy reigned even in the outward approaches to the

House : we never saw the Lobby and passages so deserted.

The King's Speech having been read from the Chair, Mr. Silo

LEFEVRE moved, and Mr. MORISON seconded the Address. According to custom, the Address was an echo of the Speech ; but both the mover and seconder showed themselves superior to the old schoolboy practice of uttering a mere paraphrase of the text which they were selected to preach from ; and, while they expressed their general approval of the domestic and foreign policy of the Government, delivered, in a manner becoming independent Members of Parliament, their own individual opinions on some important subjects. Mr. LEFEME, after mentioning the necessity of reforming the Mu nicipul Corporations of the country, upon the bitIlle principle as thet ut Parliamentary Reforne—and intimating, that, when the subject of Ecclesiastical Reform came before tbe House, the abolition of Church sinecures would be expected,—laid much stress on the necessity of an improved administration of the Poor-laws ; the burden of which was su materially increased by had management. He said that the labouring classes in the agricultural districts were in a state of " !rightful demoralization ;" that, deprived as they were of the benefit ot education, they lived in total ignorance of their social position, became envious of all around them, and were therefore easily led to the cemmission of acts of outrage and incendiarism. The depressed state of the agricultural interest was urgently insisted upon by 3Ir. Liferre. In Berkshire, Sussex, Hampshire, Bucks, Dorsetshire, and Wiltsli're, the Poor and Church rates, he said, amounted to more than one pt und sterling per head upon each one of the population. The Tit.hes, too, were a grievous burden upon the agricultural interest ; thougl, 11r. Lefavre disclaimed concurrence in the views of those who visited to substitute a payment of one thirtieth, instead of one twentieth, to tie tithebolder.

Mr. Mortise's: confined himself principally to remarks upon the commercial and manufacturing state of the country. This he considered to be, in the main, very satisfactory. Ue quoted a number of documents to prove the correctness of this opinion. In regard to the Cotton trade, he stated that the quantity of the raw material entered for home consumption in 1832, was upwards of 262 millions of pounds ; in 183:3, more than 296 millions ; being the largest quantity ever known, and an increase of 121 per cent. over the preceding year. The cotton mauulectured goods exported had increased 13 per cent. ; the declared value in 1832 being 17,398,371., and in 1833 19,659,672/. Owistg, in a great degree, to Mr. Huskisson's measures for removing restrictions on the Wool trade, that branch of commerce had also rapidly extended itself There was' Mr. Morison thought, good reason to anticipate that Australian wool would soon be produced in great quantities, and of an excellent quality ; the advantage of which to our manufactures was evident. In the Silk trade, there had been a vast increase during the last ten years, and the Linen manufacture was also in an improving condition. At Dundee, the progress of this manufacture was perfectly marvellous. The amount of flax imported into that place in 1814, was :List° tons ; iii le33 the quantity had increased to 18,777, besides 3,380 tons of hemp. In the year ending 31st May 1833, there were shipped fifty millions of yards of linen, three and a half millions of sailcloth, and four millions of yards of bagging. The imports of the raw material during that year might be reckoned worth 700,0001., and the exports of the manufactured articles 1,600,00U In the iron countries, large orders were in process of execution, for railroads ; and similar orders would probably be received from the United States, and, he hoped, from France. He dwelt upon the important fact that the wages of the workmen were the best, where the improvements in machinery had been greatest. The condition of the hand-loutu weavers was rather better than it had been. Mr. Morison also mentioned, that he had lately been in Ireland ; arid could state that the linen manufacture was improving rapidly. This was principally owing to the introduction of mill. spun yarn. In the neighbourhood of Belfast, eight new mills were in the course of erection. He was confident that tranquillity was all that was required to induce capitalists to employ their money in that country. It was quite unfair to charge upon the Legislative Union the destruction of the silk manufactures of the South of Ireland ; which was effected by the caprice of fashion ; and that not even the omnipotence of an Irish Parliament would be found able to control. It should also be remembered that if the manufactures of the South of Ireland had been transferred to England, her workpeople had been also transferred to Manchester and Glasgow. Mr. Morison concluded his speech by professing his perfect Independence of Ministers, whom he had opposed and should be prepared to oppose again if necessary; though he felt gratitude to them for carrying the Reform Bill, and believed that, more than any other set of men, they possessed the will and the power to serve the country.

Colonel EVANS, Mr. Hume, and Mr. FLEETWOOD, expressed their disapprobation of many parts of the Speech.

Colonel EVANS particularly complained of the want of any intimation that the House and Window taxes would be repealed. Ile endea

voured to obtain some information on this point from Lord Althorp ; but unsuccessfully. He condemned the foreign policy of Ministers in regard to Eastern affairs; and expressed his hope that no obstruction in future would be placed by our Government in the way of Mehemet Ali, whose power ought to be made a counterpoise to that of Russia. He concurred in that part of the Address which related to Portugal.

Mr. HUME was of opinion, that at least twenty-four hours should be allowed for the Representatives of the Nation to consider the terms of the answer which they ()Olt to make to the King's Speech. It was ridiculous to expect a discreet answer, when so short a time was al

lowed for deliberation. Mr. Hume complained that the subject of National Education was not once mentioned in the Speech ; ridiculed the paltry grant of 20,000/. voted in a house of fifty members at the close of last session ; and recommended Ministers to take pattern from the despotic government of Prussia in this matter. He was convinced that no reduction of the taxes was intended, as no mention of it was made in the Speech. On the subject of Church Reform, the Speech

was most unsatisfactory. Apparently, we had retrograded from our position of last year; the language of the King was then much more specific and encouraging than now, when we were merely informed

that the information collected by the Commissioners would be laid before the House, in order that measures for the correction of abuses

might be passed "in due season." Mr. Hume moved an amendment,

—to the effect that the House would take into its immediate consideration the state of the Church in respect to its temporalities with a

View to remove the complaints arising from the mode in which its revenues were collected, and to relieve the members of the Church, as well as the Dissenters, from the grievances under which they laboured, in conformity with the recommendation of the Crown delivered at the commencement of last session.

Mr. Hume's remarks called up LORD ALTHORP; who denied that there was any reason to suppose that there would be no reduction of

taxation because there was no mention of it in the Speech. On the contrary, he could say that there would be "a reduction" of taxation, /bough he could not promise it wotdd be to the extent which would sa

lusty Mr. It . LO trims Luc ueuUum III last year's Speech of the specific measures which Government had

in contemplation (several of which they had found it inipossible to carry through the House), that they had determined to adopt the old rule of not being so specific as some members seemed to desire. He

was prepared to state, in regard to the subject of Church Reform, that he had a measure to introduce for the redemption of tithes, which he thought svould be satisfactory. Lord John Russell also would introduce a bill for regulating Dissenters' marriages ; and the other demands of the Dissenters were receiving the best attention of Government. After some remarks from Mr. Roaixsoe,—who denied that the commercial condition of the country was so prosperous as bad been represented, and affirmed that the state of the shipping interest was peculiarly bade—the House rejeeted Ir. Hurne's amendment, by 191 to 39. Another amendment offered by the same gentleman, pledging the House to economy, was also negstivere without a division.

The passages in the Speech relating to Ireland were animadverted upon in a very vehement manner, by Mr. II. ORMAN and Mr. O'CoNNELL. The former dwelt upon the misery of the people, the beggary of the gentry, and the absenteeism of the great landed proprietors ; and asked if it was decent, or politic, or humane, to talk of visiting any body of his Majesty's subjects with the "just indiguatiou " of the King. Mr. Grattan rung the changes upon this phrase with great perseverance. With equal ardour be denounced the passage which stated the King's "unalterable determination " to resist the Repeal of the Union.

Mr. O'Cosixer.r. moved to expunge the three last clauses in the Address, which echoed the sentiments in the Speech ; and which Mr. Grattan, Mr. Hume, and Colonel Evans, all joined with him in thinking impolitic, uncalled for, and pitiful in the extreme. Mr. O'Connell commenced his oration with some bitter sarcasms on the " no meaning" of the Speech, and the failure of theGovernment measures for the commutation of tithes, delivered with great force and effect. As he proceeded, he fell off; especially towards the conclusion, which referred to the evils that free trade and the Union had inflicted upon the commerce of Ireland. Mr O'Connell's tone was full of defiance; and his was the only bitter attack made tipon Ministers during the night.

Mr. Lerreeroe replied to Mr. O'Connell, with perfect self-possession and good-hutnour : his mariner was firm, but conciliatory and dignified. He admitted that the Repeal question had been making progress in Ireland ; and agreed with 3! r. O'Connell that it was a fair subject for debate in the House of Commons. Ile exposed some of 3Ir. O'Connell's inaccuracies relative to the Tithe question. Ile said that he had given notice of at motion for bringing forward a measure for the final adjustment of tithes, on the 20th instant ; and expressed his conviction, that unless this matter was satisfactorily and finally arranged, the state of Ireland next whiter "would be desperate indeed."

Mr. CORBETT delivered a short, amusing speech of encouragement to Mr. O'Connell to proceed in his Repeal project. And Sir Roemer PEET, delivered a vapid, rambling sort of controversy upon the Speech ; which lie described as being got up on the old Tory plan, and therefore he could not but approve of it in general. Its "no meaning puzzled more than wit." Sir Robert condemned the foreign policy of Ministers, and particularly disapproved of their refusal to recognize Don Miguel. In the East, and in Belgium also, be thought that Ministers

had mismanaged matters : he ridiculed the idea of preserving the "integrity of Turkey."

Mr. ALEXANDER BARING took the same side of the question as Sir Robert Peel.

Lord PALMERSTON defended Ministers from these attacks,—which have been so frequently made almost in the same words. And then the House divided on 31r. O'Connell's amendment ; which was rejected by 189 to 23.

The motion for the Address was agreed to, and the House adjourned.

There was very little brilliant speaking in this debate. Mr. Heste delivered some passages of his speech, especially those which referred to the absence of all mention of National Education in the speech of the King, and the necessity of conciliating the nation by a vigorous Church Reform, with great energy. Theytold extremely well in the debate, but we cannot find justice done to them in any of the reports which we have read in the Daily Papers. The same may be said of Mr. LITTLETON'S reply to Mr. O'Connell; which was pithy, spit ited, and upon the whole convincing ; but it does not read well in the reports. Mr. 0' CoNNELL'S harangue will furnish some better extracts. Of the King's Speech lie said— It did not reach the dignity of esCiting indignation ; and it was so utterly devoid of every thing but mere words, that any expression of satisliction was altogether out of the question. To characterize it in the fewest possible words, it was as unmeaning a pack of drivelling nonsense as ever was concocted by any set of menor Ministers. It was positively disgraceful to witness the first Magistrate of the first empire in the world meeting his Parliament with such a tissue of nonsense as they had that day heard delivered from the Throne. Until the speech of Lord Althorp, he was utterly at a loss to conjecture on what principle it was the Speech had been framed ; but, with his characteristic honesty., that noble lord had let the secret escape " In the last opening Speech from die Throne, we found we said too much ; we raised expectations which we could not consistently with our dirty fulfil ; and the consequence was a strong manifestation of dissatisfaction on the part of the public. Under these circumstances, we resolved to follow the good old practice of stringing together a parcel of sentences, oat of which nothing could be made, and upon which no expectation could be raised." Never was resolution more successfully carried into effect. Not an ancient gentlewoman in the 'alai could have perpetrated a more discreet, a niore pointless Address. It was perfectly in character, too, with an old woman's twaddle, for it set out with nonsense, and it ended with a touch of downright BillingsgateBut was that the way a Reformed Parliament ought to be treated by a Reform-professing Ministry ? Was it wise, he asked, to irritate the people of Ireland hi their present desperate condition? Famine threat ened the country : the poor man's crop had miserably failed, and it was probable that, in consequence of the late destructive rains, not more than-one thio d of that deficient crop could be rendered available. Pestilence stalked through the land ; the cholera was niaking frightful progress; within the last three weeks five hundred individuals had fallen a sacrifice to its ravages in the city of Limerick alone. With the pestilence thus spreading from farm to farm, and bringio misery, desolation, and death with it on every side—with famine staring the people in the face, and with the constitution suspended, they weremet only with feeling*ni " just indignation ;" some proud spirit, some dictator in the Cabinet, was atilt to trample on his wretched couutry, and barb with disgrace the dart tif death tvhieli With aimed at its prosper ity. Why should the discussion of the Repeal question be suppresaed? It WAY but an act of Parliament, and why should they be deprived of an opportunity of constitutionally discussing it ? Would Ministers dare to have treated England as they had Ireland ? If the Tories in their day had been sagacious enough ; or had they possessed the dispoaition to hold power, no matter what became of the Coustit Latium(Lutradtter)—he meant what they imaaaued to be the Constitution—avid had they come forward and pressed the members of the present Government with their feelings of just indignation against all attempts to take front property its original virtual and virtuous representatives, he could well imagine what pathetic, powelful, and eloquent appeals would have resounded from the Opposition benches, and how the shades of the dead and the spirits of the living would have been called on to baffle the attempt of all legitimate and constitutional diseossioa. MICH met, dwrfore, by suet an " unalterable determination " On the part of Government, Irishmen would consider themselves a4 unworthy the rights of Englishmen, if they did not throw contempt on all attempts to eontiol or defeat them in the exercise of a constitutional right.

Mr. Como:TT, in allusion to what had been said respecting the suppression of the Repeal question, remarked, that

With respect to the charge of "ag:tatiou " brought against 31r. O'Connell, lie remembered that charge of that sort had heal' made in England. "Designing Illell" had been marked out in a King's speech, as pretending a desire for refor to, but meaning bornething else. They teen., hunted down as country gentlemell hunted vermin ; they were persecuted and put into dungeons. Could IVIr. O'Connell ha more abused or worse treated than those Men Were? De knew one of then' who had thought it necessary, for his peraunal safety, to go

ael0V4 the Atlatitie. Imigh.) They only petitioned for Reform, as the

Irish petitioned for a Repeal of the Union ; and after all, Reform came, and where were their persecutora ?—aniongst those men who boasted of making the

reliant, or of suppotting a Reform Ministry. 31r. O'Connell had not more agi tated in Ireland than the Reformers had done in England. They wrote haters.ual pamphlets, mid he had written letters and paragraphs ; and what the Secretary

fur Ireland il of 31r. O'Connell, was said of them. lle said the agitators in Ireland wet e so conning, so artful iii their proceedings, tint no redress could be obtained by law. And what said Lord Salmouth, on introducing the gagging and dungeon measure? Ile talked of the deaigning Reformers being so cunning and crafty, that the Law Officers could not get bold of them, and a law was obtained tut put them into dungeons. Mr. O'Connell would live to see the Repeal of the Union, and a Ministry boasting of being Repealers too. (Laughter.)

In the House of Peers, the Royal Speech having been read from the ‘Voolsack, the I hike of SUTHERLAND rose to move the Address. The speech of his Grace, as well as that of Lord HowA au OF EFFINGHAM, who seconded the motion, was in the most approved style of commendation of the Ministerial policy and measures.

The Ififfie of WEI.T.INoTox then made an elaborate attack upon the foreign policy of the Government. The conduct of Ministers in regard to Holland, Portugal, and Turkey excited his utmost inilination. If Ministers continued to act as they Mid done, the Belgian question would be in time same state ten years hence that it is now in. If it were the last words he had to utter, be should say, that Dun Miguel ought to have been reeognized sovereign of Portugal. Had this been done, there would have been no civil war in Spain. He 'charges' :Ministers with not exerting British influence to prevent the aggressiuns of the Egyptian Paella on Turkey. They would by so doing have prevented the Emperor of lb ussia from sending a fleet and army to Constantinople. The latter part of the Duke of Wellington's speedi was occupied in discussing the subjects of Corporation :it'd Chnreli Reform, and the state of Ireland. He alluded to Sir James Searlett's opinion as to the illegality of the Corporation Commission ; and expressed his disapprobation of the plan of founding Munie':ial constituencies on the 101. franchise. He regarded the Ministerial intentions also in regard to Chinch Reform with much jealousy mid sasideion. Ile concurred in that part of the Speech which related to !island ; but was disappointed in not finding an assurance, that the wise and salutary Coercion Bill was to be renewed.

Earl (Ilt:v replied at great length to the Duke of Wellington; reminding him of the state in which the Ileigian question was lett by his °Wit A dmini:tration ; and asking why Dim It lipid had not been recognized before the present Iklinistry came into afire. Ile utterly denied that the insuireetion in Spain would have been prevented by the establishment of Doll Miguel on the throne of' Portngal. Don Miguel had not to this day granted the amnesty which the 1 /like's Ministry required as the condition of his being recognized by England. Earl Grey then adverted to the cireinestanees attending the treaty of Adrianople; and contended, that from that time there was an end to the indepenlenve of Turkey. As regarded Mehemet Ali, a strong remonstrance against the progress of his arms, sent to him by the British Government, had bad a Powerful effect in preventing his advance on Constantinople. It was not the duty nor the policy of England to interfere further than to remonstrate with the Pacha of Egypt. The domestic policy of' the Govermnent, especially in regard to those measures which the Duke had attacked, was then defended by Earl Grey. ln reference to the Coercion Bill, be reminded the House, that as it did not expire till next August, there would be time enough to determine whether or not there would be eny necessity !Ur its renewal.

The Address was then agreed to, and the House adjourned.

On Wednesday, when the report on the Address bad been brought up and read a second time in the House of Commons, Mr. Constar moved an amendinent, which went to pledge the House to take into consideration the nature, extent, causes, and effects of agricultural distress. There was nothing remarkable in his speech, except the denial that the abolition of tithes would be a relief to the farmer : it was be said, a mere juggle. Lord ALTHORP spoke briefly in a reply to Mr. Crffibett. The amendment was then negatived, without a division.

Mr. FINN moved another amendment, to the effect that the Irish Repeaters had committed no acts of violence, but had confined themselves to strictly constitutional means in promoting the cause of Repeal. He took occasion to deny that there was any connexion between ;medial and political agitation. This remark called up Mr. LITTLETON ; who expressed a contrary opinion, and read a statement of the outrages in Kilkenny during the seven months succeeding the 10th of April last, when the county was proclaimed, compared with those in the corresponding period of the former year. From this it appeared, that, especially as regarded the robbery of arms, and the administering of unlawful oaths, there had been a very great diminution during the latter period. Mr. O'CoNNELL denied that these good effects were any justification of the Coercion Bill, as the same had been produced in the county of Clare by the proceedings of a special commission. This reference to the Coercion Bill led him to speak of the famous charge against one of the Irish Members, of having voted and spoken warmlyagainst the bill, while he bad privately urged Ministers to carry it. The business before the House was entirely lost sight of' during the lengthened discussion which the introduetion of this subject ()mi. sioned. Mr. Finn's amendment, however, was negatived ; and the Address was finally agreed to in the course of the evening.

CHARGES AGAINST THE IltISII MEMBERS.

Mr. O'CONNELL having recapitulated the story of the " traitor," with which on; readers are familiar, and expressed his own disbelief of it, called upon Lord Althorn to state distinctly, first, whether he or

any other member of the Cabinet had ever stated that an Irish Member had acted in the manner described ? and secondly, whether any Irish Member ever went to him, or any other :Minister, and made the statement which bad been imputed to him ?

In reply to the first question, Lord ALTIIORP for himself positively, and to the best of his belief for his colleague's, denied that any such statement had been made. 'With regard to the second question, he

was not aware that any Irish Member laid ever made such it stak!ment to a Cabinet Minister : but he added, that lie had good reason to be lieve, that smite Irish Members (certainly more than one), w ho voted and spoke against the bill, did in private conversation use very different language.

Great excitement was caused among the Irish Members by this declaration ; and Mr. O'CoNNEst. started up and said—" The noble lord is shrinking ! State the names of those Members." Lord

A union:, said—" Does the honourable .Member accuse me of's/winking ?" Mr. O'CoNNELI retracted that expression. Lord ALTnune then

said, that he was answerable for what he bad uttered : that he would not shift that responsibility upon others ; and that if called upoe, be would name the Irish Members alluded to. Mr. O'CONNELL said he WaS authorized " by the whole of the Irish Members "—but tile

laughter of the House made him limit the inquiry to his own particular ease : was he the man ? Mr. FINN asked the seine question for himself; and both received an answer in the negative. Several other :Members were rising ; when the SPEAKER interkred, and stated that an expression used out of the House, or in private, ought not to be made the subject of discussion in the House. Mr. Ilusit: supperted this view; and reminded the House that he had maintained the same doctrine in favour of Mr. O'Connell, when that gentleman was called to account in his place, for a speech reported to have been made by him a a public meeting in London.

Mr. H. GRATTAN affirmed, that be had the names of between thirty and forty English Members who Lad said to him—" Mr. Grattan, we will vote with you against the bill ;" and yet, with two exceptions, they voted for it.

Mr. Sinat. proceeded to argue from the expressions made use of by Lord Althorn, that the story itself was a fabrication ; as it appeared that no communication in favour of the Coercion Bill had been sem to a Cabinet Minister by any Irish Member who had voted against it The charge was distinctly negatived by the noble lord. ( A Member

on the Ministerial benches expressed his dissent.) Mr. Shell then said, that as Lord Altliorp had expressed his belief that some Irish Members had used different language out of doors in regard to the Coercion Bill from what they had used in that House, he would ask him whether he was one of the Members alluded to?

Lord ALTHORP replied—" Yes, the honourable and learned gentleman is one of them."

The house was hushed in profound stillness. Mr. Sums kept his seat for some moments : at length he rose and said— having heard the statement which the noble lord has just made to the Donae, I beg on the other hand to declare, in the face if my country, and if I may do so without profanity, in the presence of my God, that if any individual has said to the noble lord, or to (alters, that I gave any approbation of the CIVr-, c' Bill in private, he has belied me by a gross and scandalous calumny. As the noble lord has put the statement on his own responsibility, I shall say Ha more."

Mr. O'CONNELL instantly rose, and in the most ample and decided terms made his apology to Mr. Hill for the language he had used re specting him. lie now considered Mr. llill as "perfectly justified ;" and not only thus publicly retracted all that lie had said to his prejudice, but offered to make him any further reparation in private which that gentleman might require.

Mr. Him. rose, and spoke to the following effect— Be had unguardedly made use of words at a public meeting at Hull, which being without premeditation, did not make any great impression on him till is attention was drawn to it by the sensation it created. Upon this he looked ilau the published reports of it, given in the newspapers. Ile found three reports published, which differed materially from each other ; and though he could not trust entirely to his memory as to the exact expressions used, he thought lie

could confidently say, that his words were not those stated. As far as he remembered, the words were nearly these—" That he bad been informed that a

Member of Parliament (he did not even say an Irish Member), who bad spoken violently against the Coercion Bill, and voted against it, lrel haul communications with Government upon the subject, and stated to the Government that the bill was necessary and ought to pass." Ile had not considered it necessary before this time, to make even this explanati

but when he found that the statement at Dull had created a sensation :wawa the Irish Members, he inserted a short letter in the newspapets, offering, if the

Member to whom he alluded asked the question, to say whether or not he was the man. Many Irish Members availed themselves of that offer ; and he now confidently appealed to them if be bad not, in each instance, given a prompt

and explicit answer. Ile was compelled by his feelings as a man and as a guar demon to do this much, and he could not do more. Ile had since seen state. ments in the newspapers, and had received letters calling on him to give up his

authority. Of course he could not have done so. Ile would have crept out of existence before lie would have placed another in his situation, or shifted the responsibility of his words to another from himself. (Loud cheers.) 11e felt disposed to agree with those on the other side who asked for exaalr nation into the subject. Ile trusted that no slight irregularity in forai would be allowed to fora a bar to inquiry; for it was important guit it ghmdd be examined into, seeing that the Parliamentary conduct of Members was impugated ; and it was nt evident from the tone with which the House received the subject, that it was conaidered by them no light matter. (" Hunt., hear !") If any gentleman other an on the o side tumult, move for a Committee to examine into thearatter,_ he would second the motion; and he pledged himself to pi ove before that Committee every wurd which he had said. He could not do more, neither could he do less. Ile accepted the concession made to hint by the howierable and learned Member fir Dublin. Ile could not, however, help sayMe, that that gentleman's attacks came heavily upon him, from having been made at a time of great donaratie affliction and calamity. The honourable Euld leaned ;Member offered further concession out uf the I louse ; hut that be declined, feeling satisfied with what was already said. He had only further to add, that he begged the pardon of the House that any actiou of his ahould have cost them so leech trouble. (Much cheer ing.) THE SPEAKER impressed upon the House the necessity of tait:irethe usual measures to prevent the discussion from being CalTied, lry en) of the parties to it, beyond the %veils of the House. ME: ' urged the importance of full inquiry, especially after .11r. Hill's offer to prove the correetntos of stied he had aeserted; end gave make of a motion on the subject the next day. There svelte then several calls for .I r. Shen, but he did not answer them. Tut: Si•EAKI:lt CI :Ole a few explanatory 04:ervations; and then Mr. Snl.n. got up a: el etrited that he (lid not think he teas calh•d upon to say any more. Ile nes of opi nioo that Lord AlthOrp, bud derlared that he would tette on himself the responsibility of ivied he had said, had put himself i mm the place of the party \eh° bad made the ill ega tion. ( ire (,:e' "No, no e") Lord .PAI.Nenierox explaimrd, that Lord _Mthorp heti not taken upon himself the responsibility of the statement itself, but of the fact that the statement had been made. Mr. Siam, refused to accept this explanation: the case was not one for diplomacy. Lord Al:Mean again rose and said— The present was net a ease in which there ought to be any difference as to whit a man had said. He had said that he had got the mformation ; that be believed it ; that by would not give the name of the party, and he had taken open himself the responsibility.

Sir Boat:ter Iscres concurred in Lord Palmerston's explanation of the meaning of the word " responsibility." Colonel EVANS thought further explanation necessary. It was a very indefinite charge to say, that some Irish Members, %eh° had spoken warmly and voted against the Coercion Bill, had held a different language in private. it was well known that men in private lost much of the warmth which they indulged in when speaking on the same subject in public. Unless, therefore, some graver and more specific charge could be brought, he did DOI see that the character of any Member was iniu.lt affected. Lord JOHN Ileasmar urged, that the parties concerned should be called 'won to give a twit or express assent that the matter should be settled within the Htitiae. Sir F. Bremerr inowl that an injunction should be laid on Lord A Ithorp and Mr. Shell, that they should consider the restrained by the authority of the House from proevediurt further in the affair. Iii E SPEAKER called upon Alr. Shell. to give trie necessary assurance. It Ir. So ao. thought that Lord Althorp should be first called upon. Lord A Ithorp had said that he believed the statement. If he would give up the name, or suggest that he might have been mistaken, or make the slightest concessiun, he might then feel hiniatlf called upon to comply with the demand of the Chair. He again insisted upon the circumstance of Lord Althorp hr Vim; assumed the reaponsibility, and haying bromine a shareholdirr in the calumny. TOE Si'EAKER assured r.erla•il, that he was not calling upou hint to adopt a line of conduct that in :my way compromised his character as a gentleman. Sir Roamer Pam. obeerved, that in replying, as a Minister, to the questions put to Lord Althorp could not be held as assuming any personal responsibility. It could not be the slightest reflection ott Ir. Shell that he submitted to the call from the Chair. Mr. Snurr. reiterated his remarks mum the word " responsibility." The noble lord had " voucht.d for the truth of the statement." (Cries if " No, no ! ") That was the only interpretation he could pot on the words " taking upon himself all the responsibility." Mr. Secretary STANLEY said, there was art evident misunderstanding of the word "responsibility."

The question put to his noble friynd was thi,--" Did you or did you not hear melt a report ?" lie replied that he had heard it from parties watity of credit ; that he believed them ; that the matter, however, must rest with him, for that he should not go further, and make public the source whence he had derived the inhamation. .;ow, if saying that was to be esteemed an act of personal provocation, he eonfeed himself unable to comprehend how public affairs could be carried ori.

Lord A LTHOltr said, that he had assumed the responsibility, but had not vouched for the truth of the statement— What he meant in using the word "responsibility" was this—that though he had heard such a statement, he would take upon himself not to give up the name of the petsen front whom the information preceded. This observation he had used in reply to a question put; and if his saying so gave offence, he was answerable for that.

Colonel Leern HAY had heard similar representations respecting other Irish Members ; and he took upon himself the responsibility of aayiug so. (A laugh.)

Sir FRANCIS Buancrr then moved, that Lord Althorp and Mr. Sheil be committed to the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms.

Mr. COBBETT said, he held the kind of proceeding out of doors which had been alluded to in perfect Contempt— "The matter, in my opinion, stands thus : it is as if a man came into a company and said, There is a person in this room who has stolen a horse ;' one of the party requires him to be more explicit : he replies, You stole the horse;' the other rejoins, 'It is a lie; tell me your authority.' The answer to that is, Will not give up my authority, I take all the responsibility on myself.' Is not that the same thing as standing in the place of the person who first uttered the accusation?"

As Lord Althorp would not pledge himself to refuse to "respond to a call" from Mr. Sheil, and as Alr. Shell would not promise to refrain from giving such a call, they were both, after a good deal of desultory conversation, consigned to the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms. Mr. Hill, who had not objected to give the necessary assurance that he Would take no steps in the business out of doors (and who in fact did give such assurance on being formally required by the Speaker), was suffered to remain at large. Soon after their committal, the required Promises were given by Lord Althorp and Mr. Sheil,—lirst by the former; and they were both liberated. Here the matter rupped tm Wednesday.

On Thursday, Mr. O'CONNELL, aft( r complaining of the difficulty he felt in finding Parliamentary ground on which to initial his motion of inquiry into the subject, said that he proposed to treat it its a breach

of privilege, and moved that ,..count of Mr. Hill's speech at Hull,

which had been incorrectly in the Examiner of November 10th, 1833, should be read, as a pia tr.einary step whereon to found a motion. Mr. STANLEY said, that if time reading of the report was to be followed up by proceedings against the proprietor of the Examiner, be should resist the motion. Tim SPEAKER stated, that the reading Of the report would not render ulterior measures net.essary. VIr. STANLEY enlarged upon the necessity of pursuing this inquiry with calmness and (dream• spection—with shrinking caution mid deep reluctance. He much regretted that the Speaker bad not sootier interposed to stop the debate of the. previous night. By the precedent which this inquiry would establish, fmu&mio n of debate would be impeded, ;old a C42S,itti 011 Of private confidential intercourse would follow—thus raising feeliegs of suspicion below the cleiracter of the House, and degradiag to the feelings of rtentlemen. Ile suggested that a delay of three or flow days should take place before the inquiry commenced, in order to give time for excited feeling,: to (aril ; and hoped that 3Ir. O'Connell would postpone his motion. There was also another consideration—it was important that it should be (Usti:it:11y understood what the charge really was. Ile could not flo get, and he was sure the Ihmse would recollect, that the honourable :mil learned gentleman bad last night made a firm and solenin denial of the imputation, and, on f he word of a gentleman and a Member of l'arliament had pledged himself to that denial hy the utmost solemn, by the most binding as severation which could be offered in any place or upon army or-cie,ion. (Mr. Shed nodded assent.) lie would not anticipate the result of the inquiry., nor would he willingly in Ike any observation that coahl give pain to any individual; though it was hardly possible to speak on such a suliject without filling into some unintentionally wounding topic ; but be niust pray the House seriously anti deliberately to consider, that if that denial should not be fully made out, to what' further steps such a re-tilt :night lead. Ile wished to impress upon the House the deep importance of the question ; involvingnot only the character of the hotami able and leaned Member for Tipperary, but of the House itself; and that having determined, as he trusted the !louse would determine, upon an investigation in some shape or other, it would be enterod musni with a deep sense of the importance of the subject, and of the awful conseveumccs wirielt might follow.

Mr. O'CONNELL concurred in Mr. Stanley's suggestion, and agreed to postpone his motion for inquiry till Monday. In the meanwhile, he truated that the charge would be made more specifically—that some time, place and circumstance, would be mentioned ; as it was extremely hard upon Ir. Shell to have to labour under and reply to arielt vague impahitions. There were several Irish Arembers referred to besides Mr. Shell ; and a specific charge ought to be advanced ag-ai 11A, thein also. lIere the conversation 'dropped.

4. Citroen PATRONACE IN Scartasto.

This subject was brought before the House of Commons mt ts early. sitting on Wedimaday, by Mr. Rontarr WAteract: ; who prer•ented a petition agreed to at mu public meeting in Greenock, and aigned by 3,365 persons, for the abolition of the present system of patronage in the Church of Scotland. Mr. Wallace expressed his disappointment that tbe King's Speech did not contain a syllable in reference to this subject, whitth the Scotch people considered as one of such high importance. Ile reliwred to a statement which he made last session respecting a case of :abuse of patronage, in which a Member of that House was implicated. His account of the affair was flatly denied; but upon inquiry, it turned out to be correct. It appeared that time patronage of the Church had been made use of as a menns of re tenting a. Member to Parliament—had been perverted to purposes of political corruption. The 'Member for Caithness had been induced to post-. pone a motion on the subjert of the abuses of the Church of Scotland, by an assurance from the Lord Advocate, that measures were in contemplation for the remedying those abuses. But the session passed away and nothing was done. Since then, another gross east had occurred, in the parish of Inverhamside, in the county of Stirling. A fortnight after the late incumbent died, the living was in the possession of another gentleman, whom the parishioners had never seen,—a Whig from Edinburgh, appointed by Government on the old Tory principle of paying regard to political cotmexions2 . not to the fitness of the person so appointed. And this was done after the Lord Advocate's declaration that in future the wishes of the parishioners should be consulted. Mr. Wallace concluded by declaring, that if the Government proceeded as they had begun in the dispensation of Church patronage in Scotland, a general alienation of the affections of that country would take place; and no further confidence would be placed in them by a people whom they had so often and so grossly disappointed.

Colonel Lervit HAY thought Mr. Wallace's remarks premature. He tr ested that Mr. Sinclair would renew his motion of last session in the

esent. The result of inquiry into the subject would be very be neficial. He should deem it a dereliction of his duty if he did not stand up and say, that the Government patronage of the Church of Scotland was honestly and fairly distributed, without reference to political or private feeling.

Mr. SINCLAIR differed with those who wished for a separation of Church and State. Their union was absolutely necessary to the welfare of each. He thought, however, that abuses should be corrected as speedily as possible. He should again bring forward his motion, which he had relinquished last session from motives that had never yet been made public. He trusted that in this session discussion would be provoked, attention directed to abuses, and remedies suggested for their removal. • Here the conversation was discontinued.

On Thursday, the subject was resumed by Mr. A. JOHNSTONE, who presented a petition from St. Andrew's for the remedy of abuses in the Scottish Church The petitioners asked for a restoration of the integrity of the Church as it was laid down by the British Parliament of 1711. They were not Destructives, but true Conservatives of the Church.

Captain ELLIOTT complained of the attack made upon him in his absence, without notice, the day before, by Mr. Wallace. He would not enter upon the merits of that question; but thought that the rules of courtesy demanded that notice should have been given him of Mr. Wallace's intention. He had duties to perform out of doors, but would have attended if he had received an intimation of what was expected to take place. The person who had been appointed to the living, which it was said bad been given him for political purposes, was proved to hare been duly qualified ; and he gave no credit to the assertion that the Church Courts in Scotland were engaged in inquiring whether the circumstances attending his induction amounted to a charge of simony.

Mr. WALLACE said, that all the newspapers in Scotland had stated the fact last alluded to by Captain Elliott, without receiving contradiction. He reasserted what he had stated respecting the other ease. As to bringing forward the subject in Captain Elliott's abseiwe, it would be hard if Members weie to be muzzled, and not allowed to speak their sentiments in the House, because it was inconvenient for some Members of the Government to attend in their places.

5. MISCELLANEOUS SUBJECTS.

1.ocAL COURTS BILL. From a conversation which was carried on in tlw 11MISC of Commons last night, it appears that Ministers have not determined to bring fozward the Local Courts Bill again this session, or what course they shall pursue in relation to it.

Miarraltv FLOGGING. On the motion of Mr. Hrme, last night, returns of the number of corporal punishments which have been indicted in the Army during the year Ita:13, were ordered. Mr. Hume was sorry that this practice had not been abolished, according to the understanding which was come to in the house last session. Mr. Earace, who did not object to the returns being ordered, said that be felt confident of Iseng able to prove that Government had done all in its power to carry into effect the svishes expressed by the House.

FINANCIAL STATEMENT. Lord ALTIUMP, in reply to a question from Mr. RollossoN last night, said that he would make a " general financial statement " next Friday.

IlocSI: AND WINDMV TAxEs. Lord ALTIIORP refused to give any seply to a question by Mr. Hume, as to the inteotions of Government ii regard to these taxes.

l'iserrioas Coststrisrina This Committee has been reappointed, on the motion of Sir Itonner

B0ROUGIIS or I1merFoR0 AND WA nwie a. A bill f:ir the prevention cf bribery in Hertford Avas read a first time in the Commons last Flight, and was ordered to la read a second time on the :21st instant, on the motion of Mr. liensesa. The new writ for 1Varwick is not to be iLk4aed before the 17th of March.

Nt:w Waits have been issued for the Ayrshire Boroughs, Durgai von, tueds, Totiwss, and Kendal.