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ticbatc procrainal in Parliament.

1. MysicicAi. Suroam.

In the House of Commons, on Monday, Lord Joree RUSSELL moved the second reading of the Corporation Ilefbrm Air. PRAIA) gave notice of his intention to move, in Committee, a clause preserving to freemen, their children, and apprentices, their cor- porate tights.

Sir RoilERT INGLis denied the right of Parliament to destroy any cot poration except on proof of delinquency.

Lord SANDoN contended, that the Corporation of Liverpool, whose property was so large, and whose management of it was admitted to be so excellent, should be exempted from the operation of the bill as it stood. Special clauses should be framed to meet the case of Liver- pool, where great public undertakings frequently were in progress re- quiring a number of years to complete them, and the management of which was liable to be injured by changes in the governing body. There might be other towns in similar circumstances.

Lord STANLEY thought the hill should be read a second time without opposition, and without extended comment. Ile was prepared to give his cordial support to the main principle of the measure.

In speaking of the main principle of the bill, he meant the taking away from self elected cut porations their control over the funds and local management of the towns, and placing that control in the hands which in his judgment ought to hold it—namely, those of the inhabitants of the towns contributing to muni- cipal taxes. He could not have supported the second reading of the bill had he not been prepared also to accede to that which was in point of fact its chief feature—namely, the franchise which it proposed to give. His own feelings and prejudices would have been in Lemma the 101. fianchise ; buthe admitted that there were strong arguments in favour of creating, in corporate elections, a constituency in some degree different from that which shared in the election of Members of Parliament. If the Government persevered, as he thought it had ground to do, in the proposition for extending the franchise to the rate- payers at large, he trusted it would not be less steady in maintaining the propo- sition for restricting the franchise to three years' continued residence and three years' continuance of rate-paying ; and also the proposition that the votes should be given openly. With respect to the term for which Councillors were to be elected, be should rely much prefer (he spoke his own opinion only, without concert with others) to see the-Council elected fur a period of six years instead of three ; and that the elections, instead of being annual, should be triennial, one half going out every third year. He tl ght they might have a triennial election with half of the Council going out, or a triennial election with one third of the Council going out, but he should prefer the former of the two. Ile believed that, by that means, they would obtain as complete a control over the Council as was requisite for any practical purpose, whilst at the same time the towns would be relieved from these constantly-recurring contests.

He was also in favour of extending the system of voting by wards to the smaller boroughs.

Mr. GitoTE spoke strongly in favour of the bill; and trusted that it would not be damaged by establishing the inchoate rights of freemen, as proposed by Mr. Praed. He hoped that the qualification-term would be cut down to one years' residence and rate-paying, instead of three. The number of Town Councillors was too large— When he saw the number of 90 for Liverpool and 72 for Leeds, he confessed he thought it would lead to a lessening of the average of the talent and respec- tability for which the Inembent of the Council should be distinguished. He thought, therefore, it would in every case be a great improvement to reduce the number of Councillors proposed iu the bill.

Mr. WALLACE approved of the bill; but was opposed to voting by wards in any instance.

BLAcsauaNF. cordially concurred in the principle of the mea- sure, and generally in the details : he, however, preferred one years' residence and rating to three. Sir ROBERT PEEL would give no opposition to the second reading of the bill ; but would still reserve his vote respecting the " three great points of the qualification of the constituency, the frequency of elec- tions, and the question whether the governing body ought to possess a qualification or not." He suggested that scrutineers should be ap- pointed to watch the Mayor when exercising his functions as returning officer ; and that provision should be made for the application of the surplus revenues of Corporations. He wished the principle of ward- voting to be extended. Lord JolIN RUSSELL replied, in a very inaudible tone of voice. He was understood to oppose any alteration in the main provisions of the bill ; but promised to attend to the suggestions which had been. thrown out. He intended to propose that the bill should be committed on Monday, and discussed front day to day until all the details bad been gone through. The till was then read a second time.

Last night, several Members gave notice of amendments which they intend to move in Committee on the bill.

Lord STANLEY Will move amendments relative to the division of towns into wards ; the appointment of Town-Clerks during good be- haviour; to diminish the frequency of elections ; to facilitate the pub- licity of voting, and to carry more strictly into effect the three years' residence.

Mr. CHARLES BULLER will move that the elections be annual.

Mr. GROTE, that it should be competent to the majority of the Town-Council to declare that votes be taken by ballot.

Mr. Goutasume, that payment of other rates as well as poor-rates he required to enable an inhabitant to vote, and that no name should be

registered till the rates were paid. Ile also wished to have some dis- tinct qualification for members of the Town Council.

Sir Romer PEEL gave notice of four amendments— I. That the bill should not conic into operation without the consent of an absolute majority of the burgesses of any town. S. That the Town-Council shall be styled the Town-Council of our Lord the King. 3. 't hat the mem- bers of the Town-Council should riot be renewable but by an absolute majority uf the registered burgesses. 4. That a municipal oath should be taken by the Town .Council, Town.Clerk, &e.

Mr. IlanvEY would move that no barrister who had been in the habit of practising at assizes or sessions in a borough should be ap- pointed Recorder to that borough.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he should move several amendments ; but the only one heard in the Gallery was to the effect that the power of licensing alehouses should be placed in the Recorder, Mayor, and other Justices.

Mr. Scaar.Err will move that every person now an Alderman shall be a member of the Town-Council during life ; and that the cities and towns corporate mentioned in the first and second section of sche- dule A should be exempted from the operation of the Act, and placed under different regulations.

Mr. DIVETT will propose that the qualification of a burgess shall depend on one year's rating, instead of three.

Mr. BARLOW HoY intends to move that the votes for Town-Coun- cillors be given in the same way as for Members of Parliament.

2. Irswicu ELECTION.

On Monday, the Sergeant-at-Arms reported that several persons against whom the Speaker had issued his warrants were then in custody.

Mr. GrsaoasE rose to address the House, but was prevented by Sir GEORGE CLERK ; who presented petitions from John Bond, Arthur Bott Cooke, and Robert Borchelt Clamp, admitting the of- fence of absconding to avoid the Speaker's warrant, but declaring that in so doing they bad no intention of committing a breach of privilege, and praying to be leniently dealt with by the House.

These petitions were almost inaudible, owing to the noise and talking in the House ; and Mr. GISBORNE suggested that it was only a waste of time to persist in reading them at length ; but Mr. WYNN insisted, as a matter of justice, that the accused parties should be heard before they were condemned.

A petition from John Bury Dasent was then read : it was the same in substance as those of the above-mentioned prisoners. Mr. CAMP- MEM. strongly recommended Mr. Dasent to the lenient consideration of the House : it was the wish of all the Committee that he should be more mercifully treated than the other prisoners.

A petition from John Clipperton was presented by Lord EBRINGTOIC

Mr. GISBORNE then moved, that "John Bond be committed to the gaol of Newgate." He stated, that it had been the uniform practice of the House to punish offenders on the evidence of the report of a Com. mittee, and not to allow them a trial at the bar ; and he quoted several cases in proof of this position.

The SPEAKER suggested, that the Report of the Ipswich Election Committee should be read, and that the case of each prisoner should be separately decided upon.

The Clerk read the report, and then Mr. GISPORNE altered his mo- tion to the following-

" That John Bond having absconded from the service of the Speaker's war- rant, had been guilty of a breach of the privileges of the House."

Mr. IVYNN said it was impossible for the House to pass over the of- fence of the prisoners without punishment ; but he maintained that they could not properly be punished without evidence being first adduced.

Mr. P. STEWART said— There were different degrees of guilt in the parties, and the agents appeared more culpable than the others. Sparrow was the avowed agent of the parties; and whatever was admitted by Sparrow, as against them, was entitled to great weight. It came out in the course of the investigation, that Sparrow referred Pilgrim to Clipperton, who was also an acknowledged agent ; that the parties met at Clipperton's house; that they there acted under feigned names, with cor- responding initials; and that from that house parcels of money were spnt out which contained each the sum of 401. It was contended, that O'Malley's offence was limited to his collusion with Pilgrim. This individual's offence, it was true, might be considered limited as to number, but it was not limited in its character. He had attended the Committee in his capacity of counsellor ; he was aware of the nature of its proceedings ; and in his individual capacity and acting on his own responsibility, he went to the fugitive Pilgrim, who had re- turned, and was at Clipperton's office in Bedford Row, and again took him away, accompanying, him in a hackney-coach part of the way to Uxbridge. It was to be wished there were some extenuating circumstances that could be stated with regard to this case, but he could find none. As to Clipperton, he had acted in his professional capacity. He admitted that there were some extenuating circumstances in the case of Dasent. Ile had at last come voluntarily before the Committee.

Mr. D. BARCLAY considered this a case of gross bribery and cor- ruption, and would support Mr. Gisborne's motion. Mr. BLACKSTONE denied that Mr. Sparrow was an agent of the late Members.

Mr. STEWART said, that as to the agency of Sparrow, who was Town- Clerk of Ipasvich, it could not be quibbled away: Mr. Kelly acknow.

hedged that what touched Sparrow was brought home to the sitting Members.

The motion was agreed to; and Mr. Gisborne moved that " John Bond be committed to Newgate."

Sir Rounvr PEr:L was aware that in opposing the motion he was an unpopular part, and rendering himself li able to the false imputation of it wish to screen the bribers ; but he would notwithstanding maintain that it was necessary, in order to apportion the punishment justly, that the House should examine the evidence of each prisoner's guilt.

These seven persons, so far as he understood the case, were all involved in one common offence. Ile thought both the abetting and absconding a breach of the privileges of the House; but when he came to apportion the punishment, and determine whether one should be imprisoned fur a fortnight and another for a month, it was nut satisfactory to him to adjudicate in the case without seeing what were the circumstances. Ile could not underst and how Mr. Gisborne could move to-morrow that any one of the parties should be dis- charged on any allegation contained in his own petition. With respect to Dasent, so far as individual testimonv was concerned, that of Mr. Campbell appeared to be strongly in his favour, but lie protested against receiving it. Mr. Campbell had certainly better means of jud1;ing of the ease—the evidence having liven given in his presence—than he should have ; but lie must repeat, that it would be more satisfactory fur him to read the evidence in the first instance, thou to vote now that the parties be sent tu 'Netegate ; which would impose the obligation of confining them in Newgate till the evidence had been seen, or till it was seen whether the evidence would justify the course taken.

Mr. m enr:Lr., with considerable warmth, begged the House to recollect that the report was agreed to by eleven gentlemen on their oaths ; and all of the Committee, he would now state, were of opinion that Dasent should be treated with more leniency than the others.

Sir Itomaer PEEL disclaimed all intention of saying any thing which could justify Mr. Campbell's remarks 31r. Campbell had entirely mistaken the purport of what be said.

Lord Joux Russtml, differed entirely from Sir Robert Peel as to the course to be pursued with regard to the prisoners. He thought, however, that the course which the honourable Member for Derbyshire now proposed was preferable to any other. The Committee had attended most laboriously to the investigation of this subject, and after having taken their oath that they would form their opinion according to the best of their judgment on the evidence brought before them, had done so, and reported that opinion to the House. The power the House delegated to its Committees was often very great. They were the only tribunals that had the power of de- priving .Members of their seats in this House. When the (louse was told not by the speeches of individual .Members, but %ellen it was told by a solemn re- port from a Committee, that certain parties had absconded to avoid the service of a summons to attend the House, and that others had aided and abetted that absconding, he did think they had the hest ground on which to proceed. Let them suppose a contrast to this case. In three or four days the whole of the evidence would be printed. Would any man say that the various Members of this House, when their numerous employments were considered, would be able to judge the evidence with as much discrimination, and with as much chance of justice being done, as belonged to those who had heard the evidence given, and who had given to it their must deliberate consideration ? The amount of punishment would be determined, when, upon the petitions of the prisoners, the questions of extenuation would arise.

After some observations by Sir W. FOLLETT and Mr. Cumnu. FERGUSSON,

Mr. O'CoNNELL rose, and expressed his anxiety that nothing should be done to mystify the case. In point of law it was clear enough— The Committee had jurisdiction, under the Act of Parliament, to try the principal matter of election or no election; and they had necessarily a jurisdic- tion incidental to that, which should enable them to take care that the inquiry went on well fur the purposes of justice, and which should apply, whether it were interrupted by force, or whether it were interrupted by fraud. The tri- bunal possessing this authority had tried the main facts; and had also, in de- ciding the collateral matter, given in a judgment on oath to the House, to the effect that the had been a fraud committed on the Committee and on their jurisdiction. The parties in question had, therefore, been actually found guilty of a contempt ; and his legal education told him, that the first step in that, as in every case of contempt of court, was to put the culprits into custody, and then examine the new question which arose, as to the amount of punishment which ought to be awarded. The parties might then come forward and petition the House, either that they should be discharged, or Le subjected to a light punish- ment. Was it one of the privileges of criminality in this country, that a guilty man should he at once discharged ? Those privileges were, he knew, large; but surely they did not extend quite so far. Mr. O'Connell then referred to some of the proceedings of the guilty parties and their friends at Ipswich, since the report of the Com- mittee had been made known— It appeared from the newspapers, that in Ipswich, the very town of which Mr. Sparrow was Town-Clerk—the only legal officer—a meeting had been held by certain parties to celebrate what they called the honourable victory which they had obtained in opposition to the petition which had unseated the late Members. One gentleman spoke of their being compelled to fight the same battle over again, which they had before won fairly and honourably. and straight. forwardly ; but let us," he continued, " give them a grand charge, as Wel- lington did at Waterloo—let us adopt the same honourable measures as we be- fore followed " ( Loud laughter.) Right honourable measures, indeed ! Let them but adopt the same judicious measures as before, and they think that surely they will be crowned with the same success. It was judicious to be sure, to send witnesses out of the way—to commit bribery and corruption,

covered and protected, as it must have been, by perjury ; and after a Committee

had reported to the House that the election had been conducted with gross bribery, and that punishments should be awarded to the principal instigators, the House found one of those individuals, having the resolution—he would say the audacity—to be present at the meeting to which be alluded, and to cheer at the " honourable and judicious" measures which they had pursued. These bri• hers actually dared the House--they challenged its power. Did they suspect that they had any backing, any protectors there? The House would teach them that it was an unfounded supposition : it would he seen that, however honourable Members might differ on politics, there was no man among them who would stand up to justify bribery. Much had been said to distinguish the case of Mr. Dasent from the cases of the other parties implicated—that gentle- man who did not bribe at the instigation of Mr. Kelly, but who bribed fur the love of heaven, for the sake of charity. The high and honourable profession to which he belonged was a crime in him. Were those who composed that profession to bribe ? was it part of the duty of a barrister to bribe ? Some of the first men in the universe were members of the English bar, to which Mr. Dement was attached. There were many such in that House ; and instead of

couutenancing the proceedings of that its'ividul, the blush of shame ought to tome on their cheeks that there should be found such a man at the English bar.

What was to become of the Society of Lis...dies tun and the Benchers now ?

Would they inquire into the matter ? ( Great cheering.) Where would be the base calumniators that wrote in the legal reviews? Would they show how the English bar was net to be tainted, and with a man who volunteered bribery, sod was guilty of a contempt of the House of Commons ? No: justice was not to be in this instance defeated ; bribery and corruption, such as were prac- tis. d in the most rampsid days of ancient Tors ism, bad been revived, and ought to be suhiected to condign punishment. If the pi esent matter were sifted to the bottom, they would have much more than the public had knowledge of ; and he trusted that it would be so sifted, although some might find it quite conve- nient to mystify the case at the beginning, and prevent its being fully examined. He called Upon them, therefore, to do their duty to God and their country on this subject, and to discountenance that bribery which town might possibly avail themselves of, but which tome except the men of 1p-with could be found bold enough to call " honourable and judicious." (Loud chit filly.) Colt» ni l'i.fiCEWAI, agreed entirely with Mr. O'Connell in his con- IA' bribery ; and Nvould reecifintelld hint to look at 11010e; as he %%andel find, that a gentleman tt h o had been convicted of bribery had been appointed to a high and confidential situation under his Majesty's Government, with the acquiescence, he believed at the instigation Of, .111r. O'Connell himself. Ile had been convicted of having !paid bribes with his own hand at the Dublin election, before a Committee of which Mr. Robert Gordoli was Chairman : yet that same ac•olentan, Dlr. Hudson, had been made what was familiarly termed es in Ireland the Attorney-General's Devil—he, though convicted of briber:a was raised to the post of confidential adviser of his Majesty's present Government.

Mr. O'Cosaara. immediately rose. He said, that if he did not straw that a more unfair attack had never been made than that now made by Colonel I'crceval, he should think that there was not one particle of common honesty in society.

Colonel Parteavat. asked if Mr. O'Connell meant to state that he had said any thing dishonest ?

Mr. O'CONNELL said, no; but he meant to state that Colonel Perceval had made a charge which he ought never to have made. He had given the House to understand that there had been a report presented to that House of bribery against the present Attorney- General for Ireland.

Colonel Paiteavaa—" No ! "

Mr. O'Coasam. was glad that the case was so : it was settled then that there had been 00 such report. Let that be distinctly- understood. (11fuch claring. Let the taunts thrown out respecting the present

Attorney-General for Ireland- ara Colonel Pencavai.—" No, no ; I made no taunts."

Mr. O'CoaNtal.—" 1 will go further then : was theie any special report in the ease ? "

Colonel PERCEVAL.--" Yes ; there was."

Mr. O'CONNELL—a There was then a special report : was Mr. Hud- son's name in it ?"

"A motion was made that he should be pimaeented, and I voted for that emo- tion. It was directed that the prosecution should take place. Bills of indict-

meet were sent up before the Grand .fury; every 11131I who had been brought

before the Committee was sent before that tribunal ; ausl the Attorney-General (whom he believed that Colonel Perceval would not inyt aids for he was

the Tort' Attorney-General—( ('hters)—conducted the persecution as it became him. The result was this, that the Grand Jury of the city of Dublin— belonging to the party to which Mr. Perrin was opposed—after heal ing all the witnesses, ignored the bill—( Tremendous cher rio.o_soot 34. Hudson's cha- racter remained quite unimpeached. Let 31r. Disco go before a Grand Jury ; let that Grand Jury ignore the bill ; and if after that he were found to int- im:eh the character of that gentleman, let hint be looked on as a base calunirdator. lie would solemnly declare that he hoped (Amid Pesci ssil was not cognizant that Mr. Hudson had been prosecuted, and that the bill against him had been ;goer ed. As for the impromptu with which Colonel Petereval had assailed him, In could only congratulate hint on the shill with whith it had been so lei-du ply voccocted, and the happy miracle by which those Mirror of Podiu- m, ut extracts bail so opportunely slipped into his pockets. " lint the gallant officer does not believe in miracles—well doll, (said 31r. O'Connell) its a miracle to toe !" He hoped, however, that befide (blond Perceval brought another such accusation against a young man who was .striving to raise hitessif in his pad"..,ion, he WI Hid be cautii.us of taunting him with the guilt of that bribe! v of which he had been acquitted.

Coioscl Pr ar eVal. solemnly declared that he bad never heard of Mr.

Hudson's aegaitt:1. ( ivies ej " 111, !" were particularly loud fridu Jolla Sir 1i. I IHN6I: said, it was not becoming in any one to doubt the solemn assertion of Colonel Pereeval. lie considered that course to be so (Ail cutely angentirenirt1,g--....4 Cr," t‘ OJAI- I" and (lair!") Sir Jolla Witerrar51.1NPXplaitled, that he had not intended to express doubt of the truth of (Amid Pereevalas declaration, but being stmongly impressed with the feelings of the moment, lac gave %Tilt to ti.n peat sorpri,e which he felt, that Colonel Perceval should have made a charge of the kind which he did brio,;; forward, particularly against an individual whose pi aspects in life were so peculiarly liable to be injured by it, without Laving made those necessary inquiries in the absence of which, Sir J. Wrottesley would put it to his candour, his honour, and his better judgment, whether lie ought to intpiicate any individual ? ( Great chcfritiy.)

Mr. Jacasas said, that be had never heard of a bill against Mr. Hudson being ignored.

Mr. Somme believed that no bill had ever been presented against Mr. Hudson— than the assertions just wade by Mr. Shaw. That gentleman admitted that certain persons were to have been prosecuted : he acknowledged that bills of in- dictment were preferred against sonic of the parties. Then, whether a bid was or was not preferred against Mr. Hudson, was a matter of no corealuence. There was no doubt that the bills against time other parties were ignoted ; and Mr. Iludson, who was one of those referred to by the House, was surely entitled to the acquittal implied by the fact of those bills having been ignored by the Grand Jury. ( Cheers.) The effect, then, of the proceedings in Dublin was exactly the same, whether this statement of Mr. Shaw, or his own avec:int were taken into consideration ; though be certainly was under the impression, from the fact of his being present when Mr. Hudson was congratulated upon the throwing out of the bills, that one of them had been preferred agaiest that gentleman.

Mr. JACKSON said, Mr. O'Connell had asserted as a distinct f:,ct that a bill had been sent up against Mr. Hudson.

Mr. O'Cosata.a■" That is still my conviction."

The motion was agreed to. The other prisoners were also tit to Noce:etc, after a blundering account of the capture of IY:a im at Norwich had been given at the bar by one of the messengm r. oa the House. It was subsequently agreed, that part of time evidence v bleb referred to the guilt of the parties committed to prison slaall.1 be printed without delay ; and, on the motion of Mr. (loam:mar. it v agreed to refer this evidence to the Ipswich Election Conmaace to report theron. :3. IRISH CHURCH.

Petitions were presented on Wednesday, by Sir C. KNIGIITI., 1" from Northamptonshire, and by Air. A. 'rreavoit from fiat: la ad and several other places in Durham, against the appropriation of Irish (lurch revenues to other than ecclesiastical purpose:. Air. Teavma: admitted that the clergy had been active in promoting such petitions, but he denied that they had " got them up."

Ilanwmarit LAMBTON begged time House not to sueamoe than these petitions, signed by a very limited number of persons, spahe the sentiments of the people in time county of Durham. One of the as- sertions in the petitions was that the Catholic Members 1:::d viohlteml their oaths : no calumny could be more gross or false. If Cieladie Members were to be debarred from voting on the subject of the Irish Church, what was the use of Catholic Emancipation ?

Mr. HARLAND concurred in the sentiments expressed by Mr. Lambton.

Alr. CCTIIRERT RIPPON said, it was an undeniable fact, that the pe- titions in question were got up by the clergy—by the pious and politi- cal brotherhood known as the Dean and Chapter of Durham, aided by the Durham Conservative Society. It was set forth that these petitions conveyed the general (minims of oe mat

of the comity of Durham : now, in Gateshead there were Snsi anti of these but twenty had signed the petition from Gateshead. Gatesmad eel:- mined a population of 15,000; yet among, all these, the reverend petition- hawkers hail not been able to raise the other fifty-eight names appendsd to the petition ; for not a few of this number were collected from the swig liboci hood in one or two eases from a distance of not less than ten miles. With tisss loss before their eyes, the House of Commons would not for an instant, is t ; ,•• • allow such petitions as these to be foisted upon them as expressing the Mg of a great anti influential county. 'file two respectable bodies I,• of above were but too happy in having persuaded Mr. Trevor to ! . • were the conduit-pipe of the overflowings of their religious bigotry as,: i• rancour.

Mr. A. TREVOR was happy in being selected by the pet i:ionc: : their " conduit.pipe." It was natural that he should be their ma a ,a as he was the only Member from the county of Durham es ho sa.. 0:1 the Opposition side of the House. Mr. Pease read a letter from one of his constituents, to shoe.. 1 these petitions were prepared—

ills correspondent stated; that " it was the clergy who got up all .1. thins ; and that a great many of those who signed them were rss .

wholly ignorant of their real nature, but were grossly misled on j..

That he himself had been induced to put his name to a paper wide!. i.e est. as- sured bad nothing to do with the Irish Church, but which Mao taloa so is filled up with a violent petition against the Irish Church resoliitioess and preseided to the House with the names of himself and many other: o he 11.1,1 been misled in a similar manner : that the greater part of the pet h loss to n la's effect presented to the House from that part of the country were ;:ot IT iu pa.- cisely the same way, by people being induced to sign blank pipets, stodun,ds filled up with petitions of which they not only knew nothing, bat ev, re %limey opposed to ; and that all such were gross libels on a county the which, nineteen out of twenty, were altogether in favour of time I Ciao eh resolutions. These facts would, Mr. Pease trusted, at once show the Hoare what the real state of the case was.

4. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS.

Lord JOHN Ressm.r., on Wednesday, moved a resolutiao, to tile effect that time Speaker should direct the Returning 11111:1•1 the Reform Act to omit from the registers the names of voters stteek uhf by Election Cor»mittees, and to place upon them the uallies c,f those persons whose right to vote was allowed by the Committees.

A desultory discussion ensued.

Mr. CALLAGHAN called the Uttellti011 of the House to the peculiar state of time Cork constituency— The Committee had derided that a certain class of voters had no right to poll: these were nun-resident freemen, who also had registered without swearing to residence. About two hundred of these had been decided against by the Com- mittee, and their names had been struck off the poll ; but there were pet baps Si ma', y more, whose cases hail not been examined, but if examined, would he fottid ex icily similar. The question, was, what should be done with the latter. who might CleVil,:011 just the same trouble and expense to a candidate at any tonne election, by occasioning, if he might so say, a fraudulent return' Justice. to the constituency required that thew' also should he struck off. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought that their names would be struck off— that his resolution would empower the Speaker to direct the omission of their names, Mr. GOULRURN remarked, that the case of the persons alluded to might be found on inquiry to be different from that of the voters struck off the poll by the Committee. Mr. Simla said, it was incumbent on Lord John Russell to bring in a bill to remedy the evil complained of by Mr. Callaghan. Another evil was, that in the county for which he sat, there was but oriC poling-place the county was seventy miles lung, and many of the voters he had to e0,1%ey that distance at a heavy expense. A third evil was, that ill Ireland

lasted for five days. If the Sheril admitted improper votes after in- em Mg all the cost of the election, be might be unable to establish his right andel a sum of 5000/. or 6000/., with a chance that his petition would be voted (Coil us and vexatious.

Iklr. Straw was anxious that the law should be known and clear— e decisions of the Youghall and Ennis Committees were directly opposed ve of the Longford and Monaghan Committees, as to revising the decision • !le ing Barrister. Even if the lacy were bad, it would be better that 1.1 he uniform.

• r. cmi: was only waiting until the Irish Attorney. General took a at, to bring in a bill to remedy the evil.

"• mace PLia. wished the resolution of Lord John Ruseell to be end a subst quent enactment to be applied to such Case"; as that of ( aisarta, ashed veliv the revision of the Irish registry sir uid

rot, be aential instead of octennial

ean, if c,mmohil tegisnation was this, that in debt years a tla! - ieht take place, :mil vet the certificate wotti,1 be tninciusive, vid., at an ene:mons expense by a Committee. Ile would

a .1 place with tehieli he wits SallaWhat : there . jam, :a a dist.vnce of seventy miles; every man who registered t•,. • to trav,,I. Ought that to continue? Attorney-lieneral 1. xvhat ,rwgestion he le(a1111 Make as a re!ilely..; bat he could : .• oro to eive au'v opinim, lest it sheold be said that :t was his worb ;

• ••'; somer it might he the evil ongitt not to tua.:.in. in the ('it v of .•lieu-e• had called for a return of those who iddrintal their freedom

I. hit s,rvitude, or rum riage, or by grace especial, and tivv. r..taurn was that they :oltoittsd nobody of right ; yet they were every day Amin itat by virtue of birth, servitude, or Marriage, and Chief Banta Joy had held that it was a good right of v..tiag. Caner:ELL said there was no reasen why the revision of the Ii lr reeistries should not be anneal, and 110 reason why an Irish dee- Oen ht-C five days.

Lan,! STANLEY admitted that the Irish system of registration required tc,,,.,•,

lemiellertliose who were not Members of the Parliament which passed tive I;v tom Art, flout in England up to that period there existed no system of q: in !china there was a system, and althongh it was generally ad- dethetive, it was thought better not to chat go it mini the result of t!,e :,;•• in England was known. Thew was no reluctance to put both Etve:,t rise trt the satire fading, but a desire to see first how the new plan workell Ettglond.

Mr. CUTLAIL Femurs::; said, a vote ought riot to be disputed after ,: fairly pot upon the register. 1".• ti very short'v a proper appeal tribunal nand', fro established, ;••■ • v. di,pmed votes ce:Ch be determined, and afar the deci,ion of which it ! 1 ;Wowah:e for may person to impeach a rate. his III iuinyh,fu oh- t nevi rut s.,,, I. ; :o.:!h Il l wenever a atl a e! Ws ea !Tie V .1 the came, provided the right en 1nd.1 was not tra,fared--neither the Court 111 Session nor the ammons had ever acne so.

im was put, ael aereed to; and ordered to be considered Cummittete Mistmt,Lasreoes SueareTs.

: ono Disrnaieellisemi.NT BILL. In the House of Commons, nn .11:ieday, this bill was read a second time, without opposition.

Liner :mire or Pom.s BILL. On the motion of Mr. ELVIIIN- sroNE, on Wednesday, this bill was committed, and ordered to be printed. Several Members, including Mr. lie ti: and Mr. WARnUlt- ToN, wished Mr. Elphinstone not to press his measure at present, but

to trait for the report of the Registration Committee. Mr. firma said he had prepared a bill on the subject ; but would wait for the re- port of that Committee, which would very soon be laid on the table, before lie introduced it. Mr. C. Sut.r.rt warned Mr. Elphinstone, that he mast not expect his hill to pass this session, if it was referred to the Committee 0:1 Registration.

ELEeTtoN ExeeNsrs. Last night, Mr. Huata brought in a bill to reeolate the expenses of elections of Members in England and Wales. It was read a first time, and ordered to a second reading next Friday.

Pal avaras' COUNSEL BILL. On the motion of Mr. EWART, on Wednesday, this bill was committed. It was supported by Mr. CUT- EAR FEU,.;',SON, Mr. BLacantotaue Mr. O'Coaiierna., Sergeant Tama:rum Dr. Le-sum:aro:a, and Mr. CHARLES BULLER; and op-

posed by Mr. Pouterolt, Snaw, and Mr. GoreecaN. The House being in Committee, Mr. SANDFORD moved to add the following piovis0 to the first clause.

" Provided, nevertheless, that in eases of felony, unless the counsel against the prisoner shall have made a speech in the pros,amtion, the counsel fur the prisoner ill not address the jury in defence of such prisoner."

The :notion was rejected, by 30 to :16.

The next clause was read, to the effect that in cases before Magis- trates, counsel should not be allowed without the permission of the Magistrates; and it was moved to add, " except in eases where Magis- trates have it summary jurisdiction. The Committee divided; and the numbers being equal, 22 for and 22 against the amendment, the Chair- man gave his casting-vote in the negative, and the clause as it originally stood was agreed to.

BOMAN CATHOLIC ManarAons BILL. This Bill went through the Committee, on Wednesday, after a discussion which occupied two hours, hut to which only a few lines are assigned by the reporters—be- coa.:e the discussion took place in ("orninittee, and on such occasions reporters arc wont to be idle. Mr. Jaeasose Mr. O'Dwvea, Mr. Bunion, anti Dr. Lostinateroan were among those who spoke on the subject.

SeseeNsioa: or THE Gnaarr To THE WrsT Lenta Pak:arras. Mr. Fowi:u. Bux-roN moved, last night, for a Committee to inquire whether the conditions on which the grant of twenty millions had been voted to the owners of emancipated slaves had been fulfilled. Mr. Buxton delivered a long speech ; alleging several cases of cruelty on the pint of the planters, such as whipping Negro women contrary to law, mid inflicting twenty, thirty, and forty lashes on the men for slight offences. He complained of the practice of making planters justices 0.

the peace, and mentioned several parts of the Emancipation Act as requiring amendment.

Sir GEORGE GREY complained that Mr. Buxton had altered his motion, from a suspension of' the grant to a motion for a Committee ; and he resisted the motion even in this form. It was unjust to punish the whole body of the planters on account of the very rare instances of the breach of the law, which had been alleged, but not proved. lie pointed out the injury which would be done by suspending the pay- ment of the money to those who bad made engagements in the Colonies on the faith of receiving it ; and argued that a Committee sitting in this country to examine the contradictory :statements sent from the Colonies would not be of any service. Ile pledaed the Government to inquire into any individual cases. Already had they withdrawn the Commission of the Peare from all planters. lie thought the Govern- ment of the day might be intrusted with the enforcement of the Eman- cipation Act ; and he mingratillitted the llouae On the satisfactory manner in which it had worked. An estate owned by a relative of his in Antigua, had proved more productive under the system of free than under that of slave labour.

Alt. CLAY and Mr. O'CONNELL wished Mr. Buxton to withdraw his nettion, after the very exeellent amd satisEtet•Ty speech of Sit George Grey. .Mr. Butoros: adm:tted that the speech of Sir I :corgi! was very satisfactory, and withdrew his motion.

Srean-Dterile.i. Petitions were presented last nigh: by Mr. CUT-

LAR FERGESsoN, Mr. Ceaw roma and Air. l'ea altI, in • favour of

equalizing the dmies On East erel West India smaira. The :Ionse went into a Committee of Ways told Means. Mr. SPRING NI! said he fonntl, on entering. office, that although fir Peel had made

no positive engagement respecting the Sugar-di.1icur, vat th it West

India interest heal been induced to believe that there woold ha, 1!0 alte-

ration this vear. lie felt himself hound, therefore, to proliose the continuance of the present Sugar-duties for another year. 'f he ease

was different with respect to Colb!e; and he intereteel to propose that the duties should be equalized on that article. Air. Rice concluded with 111014,1g the contintimice Of the Sugar-duties for :mother year. Mr. Ettesier withdrew his motion for the equalization of the duties; and after some observations from Ala Healy, Lord Sae DeN, Air. l'ouTErr :lir. I'. AI. Stm v Awl., and when:, Mr. riee's motion was carried.

APPOINTMENT OF COLONEL TAND,AY. .1 :-t whether it was true that Colonel Lindsay 1. , command of a lie,: _cut of Militia. This I

be a violent oppost r of Liberal opinions, tied end the policy of Mieisters in giving him power, tell'. !: themselves. Lard Jona R: ,east. said. h- foti , to appoint Col:' :,•l Lindsay to the Co! '

and he bad only to :Ad, that his reconit, n 1 v

e-

titan of his Alajesty.

Sir rs more 'ft roes. Captain Praline. prce: nteil a petition, last

night, front Alt. G. Pecliell, a Captain in the Navy, complaining ,,f the proceedings again,. inn in the Court of Excil, Tice for the recovery of :if. Gs. due for tithe on turnips on some lend in Hampahire to the Vicar, Air. Kemp Cook. It appeared from Capt,:in Pechell's state- ment, that The turnips in question had been hoed up, not for the purpose of sire or re- moval, hat to be eaten on the field by his sheep, and that, tlict crow, they avert not titheable; but th it the Vic it had demanded :IL Gs. a: doe alleg-tol value of tithe of them (though it was really not worth more th ats. or :10s.); and instead of bringimz the petitioner before two Magistiates,—,t tiibun tl tp.ite com- petent to dispose of the ease,—had sued him in the Court of I•hxeltvapter; where judgment being given against him by the Chief Baton, Os the pc:intoner ,dleged, contrary to law,) on the ground that the sheep were cut admitted to fop' ail over the field at once, but in portions hurdled WY, though that wets the usual way, the petitioner was involved in costs amounting ta not le:s than 01W. 18s. I Id., although both his counsel and solicitor, from a sense of the extreme injustice of the case, g we their services gratuitously. Some observations were made in defence of the clergyman, by "Mr. ESTCOURT, Sir Roemer 'Nous, and Mr. A. Tarvort ; and hr Mr. Henri and Mr. GILLON, on the oppressive nature of the proceedings. The petition was then laid on the table.

SCOTTISH CHUR(711. Mr. ANDREW JOHNSTON brought forward a motion, on Thursday, to abolish lay patronage in the Church of Scot- land. As soon as he began to speak, the ;Members began to move into the Lobby; and at a quarter past seven, being left with an audience of about thirty Members, he was interrupted by Mr. Poi. rut, who moved that the House be counted, as he thought it unseemly that a subject of such importance should be discussed in so thin a meeting. The House was accordingly " counted out."

CosnucT or a tin Innot Cantlov in ELtaerroxs. Mr. Jae ESON pre- seined a petition, last night, from the Protestants of Cork, against a grant of money to the Catholic College of Alaynooth. The peti- tioners also complained of the interference of the priests in elections. Mr. O'DwvElt said the petition came with a bad grace from men whose ministers were notorious for the violence with which they interfered ire elections..

Mr. Sitaw charged the Catholic priests with exhibiting party ran- cour at elections.

Mr. O'Coment.t. said, .Mr. Shaw's information, on which he founded his assertions, was entirely false.

Snow had no doubt, that if the conduct of the clergy at the Carlow election were examined, lir. O'Connell's statemeot would be found as erroneous as his former one. to the King, praying that he would direct steps to be taken to carry into effect the recommendations contained in the resolutions of the Committee for rebuilding the Houses of Parliament.

CANADA. Mr. Itououcx presented a petition, out Thursday, from the House of Assembly in Lower Canada, complaining of additional grievances. A brief discussion ensued. Sir Gs:oat.i: °env and Alr. LABOMILRI: defended the conduct of Government ; and charged Mr. Roebuck with having thrown obstacles in the way of un amicable settlement of the differences be tweeo Canada and the Alother Country.

In reply to a question from Sir Roamer Sir Graotoi: GRIN stated, that the commission of which LGrel Gosford is chief, was com- pleted.

Mn. Ii01:111'c1: AND THE NEWS1'.111:11S. Mr. LOSVIllElt presented, OR Monday, P. petition from York against the repeal of the Stamp- duty on Newspapers ; whereupon Al r. Bronain K sai !- This petition vont:tine:I extratinliletry asol ,e1f etostradietory strtemunts. The petitioners talked of the high character of the ewsp:tie press of this couutry. Now there never was a press it degraded, so thoroughly ilionotal, :is the news- paper press of this country. A devotisni of the basest and most cowardly description was exercised by the per.ons ciertieeted with 'Lowy qiers, who were ready on every rice stunt to ruin the public reptincion of hore.1,111.11., in articles to which they did not dare to put their names. Any thine; so peen:etly cowardly in feeling,, and so despotie in execution, could not be instamed as the conduct of the newspaper press of this cot:airy ; and they were told, foisooth, of the high character of that press ! If the dufir were niken olf, it would not then have the power with imptinily to ruin the reputation of indi- viduals; for its attacks would he answered, and its slanders exima..1—that alone would be a great benefit. II, would assert with eirilidetice, that from the highest to the lowest, tile most paltry corruption, the blest eievaudice, and the blackest immorality, were the govyri ig principles of the newspaper press of this country.

Air. Low-rime expressed his dissent from Alr. llochuck's ranarks. Mr. II said— He also Was very much indisposed to give his sanetion to the general con- detonation of the press tittered by Alr. Rio-bock. There was mulauhtedly some portion of the piers which disgriteyd itself ; but at the same time there were other portions of the pres• who-c niauly vindication of the rights of the people conferred lasting honour out them.

FM:et-1'10N or W11.1.!; Lord the reading of this 1.1:11, in the lion of l'cers, lost night ; but a:ler a brief

discussion, it was postponed for the present.

ARMA311:NT FOR SP.%IN : 1.01:D 1:1.10T 'S Alissone. Lord 111..r.- 1101.11NE stated on .Muntlay, in reply to questions I i.ord 1.051105- DI:1ml-, that tic ()filer in Conned, suspending the Fin eign

Act, had been issued in consequence of ;Lii applicetion I.y the Spanish Ambassador. Ile spoke in commendation of Lord Ehot's mission-

ne admire,' that tLar i is.Lla wa. nneal.,1 a;,;111 the h: •••••i7,11, yids of policy 7111 1i, ,i1 atyl that it hail hecu r ti l .e .1 bto ie.e.,t

satisliet, ■., Thar n•i . .:1 e, o ho, was as • it • t in is-olt ir • The

effectst,f tl. ! t'.. ,t the Ilya -,utu were savol. I t .:1 i•T,:,•! : , .41 retitled

The ` . v Light, III a long • -rutin

papers Coln.: •-, Gttr-

wood. _1 di-. • ,

General Ala% i, d of the Convention. I :•,.: t 11•cl-

lingtun in the a,l.uir; and both :•21r. t h I ANS admitted that the Inike had

the Quadruple 'Fruatv. Lord - . .1 h l !,y it t- ],yray the Convention bv.ore the lIore. e. : [..111'1(1 le e%L I ■ ..1,1111 peeoure the hi:trio:tit/11s of the Fureign i l Mister to Lord Lliut and Colonel Gurwoud.